Cannabis Oil as a Breast Cancer Treatment (Estrogen Positive)?

by Gael
(Hartland, WI)



QUESTION:

Can the cannabis oil treatment (orally) cause an estrogen positive breast cancer tumor to grow? This has been suggested on other sites, and I hope it's not true. Does the ratio 1:1 make a difference in this case?


ANSWER:

Hi Gael. Thank you for your question regarding using cannabis oil for estrogen positive breast cancer.

Firstly, I don't know which sites you are referring to that suggest the ingestion of cannabis oil can cause estrogen positive breast cancer tumors to grow, but we have not heard of this. In fact, research proves the exact opposite!

Here's an article from the National Cancer Institute website on the anti-tumor effects of cannabinoids... National Cancer Institute.

Here's the paragraph about cannabinoids for breast cancer...

"An in vitro study of the effect of CBD on programmed cell death in breast cancer cell lines found that CBD induced programmed cell death, independent of the CB1, CB2, or vanilloid receptors. CBD inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines, inducing apoptosis in a concentration-dependent manner while having little effect on nontumorigenic mammary cells.Other studies have also shown the antitumor effect of cannabinoids (i.e., CBD and THC) in preclinical models of breast cancer."



The sentence I'd like to highlight is...

"CBD inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines, inducing apoptosis in a concentration-dependent manner while having little effect on nontumorigenic mammary cells."



That says it all. The other thing I'd like to say is that NOTHING gets printed or published by the National Cancer Institute unless it's been 100% verified, so you can trust that this information is correct. In fact, after all of the studies that have been done world-wide on cannabis and cancer, they have yet to find a type of cancer (or cancer cell) that doesn't respond to the induction of cannabinoids.

When a cancer doesn't respond to cannabinoids, 9 times out of 10 it's because the cannabis oil is not high grade (and the cannabis used was probably crap) or it hasn't been made correctly. This is such a big problem. I did an interview with Rick Simpson and he agreed that this is the biggest reason why people don't get results from using the oil. With that said, if you do have access to some high grade cannabis, here's a "must watch" video on how to make the oil for maximum potency... How to Make a Small Batch of Rick Simpson Oil. You can also read about how to make the correct ratio on Rick's official website here... Make the Medicine.

Hope this helps.

Good luck and all the best,

Regards

Troy (Admin)

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Oct 04, 2015
High cbd for estrogen +, low thc...
by: Anonymous

There's a big difference in treating estrogen positive cancer with CBD over THC. You need 4:1 CBD to THC.

Nov 26, 2015
Relationship of THC and Estrogen
by: Mollie

I'm wondering if THC mimics estrogen. Could smoking pot be feeding estrogen positive breast cancer?

Nov 30, 2015
THC and Estrogen
by: Troy (Admin)

The studies that have been done supposedly linking THC to increased estrogen levels have only been done on female rats! There is no proof that THC increases estrogen levels in human females. Yet another study trying to discredit cannabis, and in particular THC, in my opinion. Watch the Skype interview I did with Rick Simpson just last week for more info on the power of THC... Outstanding Interview With Rick Simpson... Cannabis Oil Crusader and Hemp Expert.

Dec 15, 2015
Estrogen Breastcancer and Use of THC
by: Anonymous

In this link they give a negative effect in using THC. I still wonder what the Research Question was and also who financed this study. Anyhow, is 1THC to 4CBD a good dose?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15749859?dopt=Abstract

Dec 15, 2015
Estrogen Breast Cancer and Use of THC Reply...
by: Troy (Admin)

The study in question was produced back in 2006 and is a load of cods wollop! Even the ncbi themselves have come out with new studies showing the exact opposite of what this so-called study suggested and they've even admitted, in a round about way, that they were wrong. Have a read of this article and scroll down to the "Cures Breast Cancer" section to see results of the real studies on cannabis oil for treating breast cancer... 34 Studies Showing Cannabis Can Cure Cancer.

As far as the ratio of CBD to THC, Rick Simpson recommends as high THC as you can get for treating ALL forms of cancers. Since he's had so much to do with cannabis oil and the healing benefits (much more than alot of these researchers, who quite frankly, have absolutely no idea just how to produce high quality oil), I'm sticking with Rick and what he advocates!

Jun 30, 2016
Who do I see about using Cannabis oil for estrogen driven breast to bone cancer?
by: Evelyn

I had breast cancer (estrogen driven). Lumpectomy, radiation and Tamoxifan... cancer back in my sternum. Now on Arimidax. I am very interested in cannabis oil but not sure who to go see about this... osteopath? I want to be sure to talk to a professional... have loads of questions.

Jul 03, 2016
Reply
by: Troy (Admin)

Unfortunately Evelyn, when it comes to using cannabis oil for cancer, you're essentially on your own. Most doctors don't want to know about it and the ones that do risk losing their license if they get found out by the AMA. It's a sad state of affairs. The Rick Simpson protocol is definitely the best there is. There's some good information about this listed in the links provided here if you're interested... The Rick Simpson Hemp Oil Protocol for Cancer.

Hope this helps you Evelyn.

All the best to you.

Jul 19, 2016
Estrogen Doesn't Cause Cancer
by: Alex Doge

If cancer was caused by estrogen and THC increased estrogen levels then THC would make it grow; however, I've never heard of a link between estrogen causing cancer. If that were true, every girl would get it. Phytoestrogens reduce the risk of cancer.

Jul 21, 2016
Reply
by: Troy

You do make an interesting point Alex. What causes ER positive breast cancer though is excessively high levels of estrogen. Most women only have moderate levels of this hormone, hence why every woman doesn't get it. It's the high levels of estrogen that increases a women's risk. With that said, we certainly agree with you; phytoestrogens are excellent for not only preventing ER positive breast cancer, but also for even treating this disease.

Thanks for your comment :)

Jul 25, 2016
I Cured My Aggressive Breast Cancer With High THC Cannabis Oil
by: Geri Ann

I was diagnosed with breast cancer in Aug 2015. The ultrasound detected a 15x13x12mm mass - IDC adenocarcinoma. I had been caring for my Mom at the time who had lung cancer. We had given her 60 grams of cannabis oil in 90 days and her cancer never grew or spread. That gave me the courage to postpone my own surgery and use the cannabis oil to see if my tumor would shrink. I cancelled 3 different surgeries. The lump could no longer be detected after 3 months.
I struggled with the THC/CBD ratio but ultimately decided to use high THC as many cancers of both men and women are hormone driven. If high THC was a problem, I thought, then people such as Rick Simpson would have seen it a long time ago. I worry that people are deliberately being mislead about THC. It's hard to trust anyone once you see the truth behind our medical system.

Jul 26, 2016
Reply
by: Troy (Admin)

Hi Geri Ann. Firstly, thank you for taking the time to share your story. We really appreciate it and what you've shared is going to give many women lots of hope. We've been saying over and over that the THC cannabinoid is nothing to be afraid of if you have breast cancer. Sadly, the medical profession do a good job of scaring women about it so they wont use it. I spoke to Rick about this very subject when I interviewed him last and he said the same thing. THC reverses ALL types of cancers!! Thank goodness you followed your heart and went with it. Hopefully more women will now have the courage to follow in your footsteps and do the same.

Thank you once again for sharing your story with us.

All the best to you!

Aug 10, 2016
Hormone activated breast cancer
by: Carolann

This information is encouraging. I actually read last night DR. CHRISTINA SANCHEZ PHD saying towards the end of her interview that hormone activated breast cancer cannot be helped with CBD cannabis oil.
I'm wondering if I should switch to high THC instead of high CBD and very low THC. I'd like to hear from any women with my hormone type that have had success with this. Also, what about the Budwig diet. Is this recommended with my type.
Thank you
Carolann

Aug 14, 2016
Reply to Carolann
by: Troy

We recommend you go with Rick's suggestion of high THC AND high CBD. Rick hasn't been wrong yet on the awesome power of cannabinoids for healing ALL types of cancers. In regards to the Budwig diet, this protocol is also excellent for healing all type of cancers. The Cellect-Budwig protocol is even better and is basically a beefed-up version of the original plan. Our friends at CancerTutor have all the information you need on this. You can check it out here... The Budwig Diet Cottage Cheese and Flaxseed Oil.

Hope this helps you Carolann.

Good luck and all the best to you.

Sep 16, 2016
Added thought...
by: Carolann

Aug 10, 2016
Hormone activated breast cancer
by: Carolann

Please try to recall that the 'Entourage Effect' is one of the properties of this plant that helps it do what it does, and very well, thank you very much!

Sep 16, 2016
My Experience with THC on Estrogen + Breast Cancer
by: Kari

Hi everyone,
I'd like to give you my personal experience using high THC oil to treat Estrogen positive breast cancer (ER+, PR+, HER2-). I was originally diagnosed in November 2012 and have multiple tumors over the years, despite several surgeries and alternative treatments. I have always taken excellent care of myself and because of this, my cancer (despite stage 4- mets to the bones) my quality of life has been normal. I travel the country every week for work, my energy is always high and I feel great! However, this all changed once I started using high THC oil to treat my cancer. As someone who never used cannabis in the past, I had a lot to learn and the information out there can be conflicting at times. I live in a state where medical marijuana is legal and I have access to dispensaries. I used high THC oils, just like Rick Simpson suggests and I also found out the hard way, to make sure it's always Indica strain. (Sativa strains intensified my bone pain) Once I had this down pat, I consistently used the high THC Indica oil every night at bedtime. It helped me sleep much better and also helped with my bone pain, so I thought, this is great! However, after several weeks, I started noticing I was having difficulty breathing, my abdomen started getting extremely bloated, and I was feeling lousy overall. I continued to travel for work and push through it, thinking I must have contracted some type of stomach bug or something. I just so happened to have an appointment with my oncologist and when I mentioned my symptoms, I was immediately sent for a CT scan. The next thing I knew, I was being admitted to the ER with a collapsed lung from fluid buildup in my pleural lining and severe abdominal fluid buildup (ascites). I had to have both my lung and abdomen tapped to release the pressure. They removed 1 1/3 liters of fluid from my lung (I still have an estimated 2 liters left) and 1 1/2 liters from my abdomen. Unfortunately, within days, the fluid was back. I also had several small tumors pop up all along my collar bones. I couldn't believe my cancer took off this fast! What caused it? How did I go all these years, doing so good, living a normal life, to have this happen... seemingly overnight? Was it the THC? Turns out, ALL cancer is helped by high levels of THC, except Estrogen positive breast cancer! I just added fuel to my own fire!! Ladies, please, please, please don't make my mistake if you have Estrogen + cancer. PLEASE stick to high CBD oil instead. When articles talk about Estrogen + breast cancer and cannabis, please note that they specifically say CBD. Do your research meticulously. Normally, I research everything thoroughly, but somehow missed this very important piece of information. I will be writing to Rick Simpson as well to let him know of my experience. Hopefully I will help prevent others from making this same mistake.

Sep 19, 2016
Reply
by: Troy (Admin)

Hi Kari.

Unfortunately, purchasing cannabis oil from "legal" dispensaries does not guarantee that the oil is high grade or the company is even legit... Report: More Than 60% of Weedmaps Reviews Are Fake. This is a common misconception (and a common mistake made by many people looking to use cannabis oil). The one thing Rick ALWAYS drums into people is, first and foremost, grow and make your own cannabis/cannabis oil! This way, you know exactly what you're going to be giving yourself. The type of cannabis plant and buds used, along with the critical extraction process are CRUCIAL. Most dispensaries are only interested in turning out a profit, not producing and selling high quality oil. Believe it or not, some dispensaries don't even make their cannabis oil from female buds!!

Could the health problems you experienced have been caused from a low quality oil that you purchased? How do you know it was actually high THC? Don't believe what the manufacturer tells you. Once again, if you're looking to use cannabis oil, grow your own plants and make your own Rick Simpson oil (RSO) using the exact extraction process that Rick teaches. As far as only CBD being useful for HER2 (ErbB2-positive) breast cancer and THC being bad, this is simply not true. This study (which is one of many), published in Molecular Cancer back in 2010 proves it... Cannabinoids reduce ErbB2-driven breast cancer progression through Akt inhibition.

When someone uses a substance such as cannabis oil and it doesn't work, it's very easy to blame the "oil" in general or the THC or CBD or other cannabinoids, rather than scrutinise the quality of the oil. Yes you are right, there is a lot to learn about cannabis oil, and for us, rule number one (and Rick's first rule) is to grow your own cannabis and make your own oil. As Rick says... "The only way to know that you have the real thing, is to produce the proper oil yourself."

I would recommend that anyone thinking of using cannabis oil first purchase and read Rick's terrific book "Natures Answer for Cancer" before doing anything... Nature’s Answer For Cancer – Rick Simpson.

Sep 19, 2016
Response to Personal Experience
by: Kari

Thank you Troy, however, the state in which I live is very strict about the quality of the products and plants being sold. Before they are ever sold, they must all be tested at a private lab to ensure the product is what it says it is. That said, I was purchasing the bud and making my own oil with an Indica strain of high THC, according to Rick Simpsons protocol. I have no doubt the oil was correct. The cancer I have is estrogen positive, not HER2 positive, as you stated in your response. There is very little data out there to assist in this and I wanted to share my personal experience.

The good news is, I have been on high CBD now for about three days and I am already seeing an improvement. It's small improvements every day, but I'll take progress any day.

Troy, not all cancers are the same. Although I truly appreciate your passion and your website, it's important to keep an open mind that we don't know everything there is to know about this plant and it's powerful components. It's important to also draw from personal experience. I shared my experience of using high THC. If high THC was helping me, I certainly wouldn't have had my cancer spread so rapidly after I started taking it. Something was fueling the fire, and this is the only thing I changed. After reading the animal studies about my PARTICULAR type of cancer, I knew this was the cause. From everything I've researched ALL cancers, EXCEPT estrogen positive, and triple negative breast cancers, can be helped by high THC. Unfortunately, mine was not one of them. I am continuing to hope that high CBD will. Thank you.

Sep 19, 2016
Reply
by: Troy

Hi Kari, and thank you for your reply. Yes I was wrong, HER2+ is different from estrogen+. THC has been shown to induce apoptosis in ErbB2–positive (HER2) breast cancer cells, whereas, CBD is known to work at the genetic level, blocking expression of the ID-1 gene to inhibit breast cancer metastasis. In your case, CBD would be the most important cannabinoid, although, I still agree with Rick that all cannabinoids are important and work in synergy with each other. It seems you are following your gut on this though and that's good.

I sincerely hope the new oil you're using continues to help you. At the end of the day that's all that really matters. Are you following any other cancer treatment protocols as well? Hitting the cancer with everything you've got is crucial. This protocol is extremely popular and one you might like to consider adding to your daily regimen... Stunning Natural Cancer Cure.

High dose vitamin D supplementation is also vital... 8000 IUs of vitamin D daily necessary to raise blood levels of "miracle" anti-cancer nutrient, declares groundbreaking new research.

Once again, I sincerely hope that whatever treatments and protocols you continue to use manage to help and benefit you Kari. And thank you for sharing your story with our readers. Hopefully, your experiences will help others.

Good luck and all the very best to you.

Oct 26, 2016
CBD or THC?
by: Anonymous

In regards to treating breast cancer estrogen positive (ER+) HER negative that has metastasised to the bones and lungs. What oil would you suggest?

Oct 28, 2016
Reply
by: Troy

You should take the time to read this article in full and click on ALL the relevant links... Rick Simpson Hemp Oil Protocol - CancerTutor.

Hope this helps.

All the best to you.

Oct 28, 2016
Estrogen Receptive
by: Regina

I was diagnosed with stage 3-4 (they cant decide) breast cancer on April 19, 2016. Since then I have undergone 4 months of chemo, and a single radical mastectomy. I am slated to start radiation soon and then reconstruction and mastectomy to the other side to be sure I won't have to worry about that one later. I am also thinking about having a hysterectomy so that I don't have to worry about that part of my body being an issue later or producing more drama for me down the road. But the problem I'm having is that the Dr wants me to take Arimidex for 5 years. The side effects are awful and everything in me is screaming "don't take the meds". I knew when I found my lump that it was cancer. I am doing my best to not let the Dr's scare me into anything or make me live in fear. I believe that fear feeds this disease. So my question is, do you think that the cannabis oil treatment can help me instead of taking this poison RX. I want alternatives. I have a 15 year old son and I'd like to be around awhile. I'm 49.

Oct 30, 2016
Reply
by: Troy

Hi Regina. We cannot comment or tell you what you should do, except to say this... just make sure you do your research thoroughly, both with conventional and alternative treatments. There's some handy links on cannabis oil in the Q&A's here. Have a read of them. Cannabis oil is very powerful, especially for treating and even curing virtually all forms of cancer. And it works exceptionally well for breast cancer. Here's a few testimonials and stories that you may find helpful...

A "cannabis cures cancer" testimonial.

Cancer Success Stories.

Hope this helps.

All the best to you Regina. :)

Nov 12, 2016
Kari, what ratio of CBD to THC are you using for E+ breast cancer??
by: ladyinleopard

Hi Kari,
I have come across research studies that would agree with you that high THC oil can actually proliferate cancerous cells for those who have estrogen positive breast cancer. I was wondering how you are feeling now that you are using a high CBD strain, and also, what ratio of CBD to THC you are using?

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